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		<title>Comment on A Month of Creative Madness -and- A Publisher Deserving of Attention by Zenbomb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zenbomb</dc:creator>
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		<description>No doubt.  I would kill for one of his covers.</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Month of Creative Madness -and- A Publisher Deserving of Attention by CZP</title>
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		<dc:creator>CZP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the coverage.  We appreciate it.

You want to talk about genre-bending, Objects of Worship will bend the hell out of your genre.

And thanks also for praising Erik. We are lucky as hell to have him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the coverage.  We appreciate it.</p>
<p>You want to talk about genre-bending, Objects of Worship will bend the hell out of your genre.</p>
<p>And thanks also for praising Erik. We are lucky as hell to have him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ebooks: The End of Civilised Reading by Danny Bloom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zenbomb,
Just to explain more: we don&#039;t need the word for the general reader, we need the new word for scholars and neuroscientists studying these issues, so they can report back and say that READING on paper does such and such to the brain scan MRI tests, while READING ON SCREENS (or screening or e-reading or screading, and other terms being created right now!) does OTHER things to the brain, not a priori better or worse, just different.

A friend tells me: &quot;I&#039;d say that reading on a screen *can* be qualititatively different than
reading as we have understood it, but does not necessarily have to be. I&#039;ve
read narrative book-like material almost exclusively on screens for ten
years and I am seldom distracted by links. I focus on the text, particularly
with ebooks. But I know what you mean; different experiences are certainly
possible and are becoming widespread and it is something different than what
we have always called &quot;reading&quot; when you use a basic text more as a jumping
off point than as a narrative.&quot;

And another friend in OZ tells me re same issue:

RE: &#039;&#039;Do we need a new word for reading on screens?&#039;&#039;

Dear Danny
&quot;I think it more likely that, seeing as in the future we probably will read more often from a screen than from paper surfaces of books or newspapers or magazines...probably what will happen is that some word or term will evolve to encompass the action rather than the action evolving a new word, and a retronym will arise for its superceded equivalent (think &quot;acoustic guitar&quot; or &quot;film camera&quot;). .....Thus, reading will still be &quot;reading&quot;, but reading a paper book may be...oh, I don&#039;t know, but likely as simple as the examples given...something like &quot;pbook reading&quot; or &quot;paper reading&quot;. .......I guess we can hypothesize about future words, but I suspect we&#039;ll no more control or even steer it than we do most developments and evolutions and contributions to language - it just happens. doesn&#039;t it?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zenbomb,<br />
Just to explain more: we don&#8217;t need the word for the general reader, we need the new word for scholars and neuroscientists studying these issues, so they can report back and say that READING on paper does such and such to the brain scan MRI tests, while READING ON SCREENS (or screening or e-reading or screading, and other terms being created right now!) does OTHER things to the brain, not a priori better or worse, just different.</p>
<p>A friend tells me: &#8220;I&#8217;d say that reading on a screen *can* be qualititatively different than<br />
reading as we have understood it, but does not necessarily have to be. I&#8217;ve<br />
read narrative book-like material almost exclusively on screens for ten<br />
years and I am seldom distracted by links. I focus on the text, particularly<br />
with ebooks. But I know what you mean; different experiences are certainly<br />
possible and are becoming widespread and it is something different than what<br />
we have always called &#8220;reading&#8221; when you use a basic text more as a jumping<br />
off point than as a narrative.&#8221;</p>
<p>And another friend in OZ tells me re same issue:</p>
<p>RE: &#8221;Do we need a new word for reading on screens?&#8221;</p>
<p>Dear Danny<br />
&#8220;I think it more likely that, seeing as in the future we probably will read more often from a screen than from paper surfaces of books or newspapers or magazines&#8230;probably what will happen is that some word or term will evolve to encompass the action rather than the action evolving a new word, and a retronym will arise for its superceded equivalent (think &#8220;acoustic guitar&#8221; or &#8220;film camera&#8221;). &#8230;..Thus, reading will still be &#8220;reading&#8221;, but reading a paper book may be&#8230;oh, I don&#8217;t know, but likely as simple as the examples given&#8230;something like &#8220;pbook reading&#8221; or &#8220;paper reading&#8221;. &#8230;&#8230;.I guess we can hypothesize about future words, but I suspect we&#8217;ll no more control or even steer it than we do most developments and evolutions and contributions to language &#8211; it just happens. doesn&#8217;t it?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ebooks: The End of Civilised Reading by Zenbomb</title>
		<link>http://hypnerdic.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/ebooks-the-end-of-civilised-reading/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Zenbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said it yourself: reading is reading.  We haven&#039;t come up with unique, single-word terminologies for differentiating between reading books, magazines, newspapers or internet articles.  I find it unlikely that e-readers will so revolutionise the medium that they will need their own word.  It&#039;s still reading, regardless of how the words reach your eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said it yourself: reading is reading.  We haven&#8217;t come up with unique, single-word terminologies for differentiating between reading books, magazines, newspapers or internet articles.  I find it unlikely that e-readers will so revolutionise the medium that they will need their own word.  It&#8217;s still reading, regardless of how the words reach your eyes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ebooks: The End of Civilised Reading by Cat Faber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat Faber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(from the article you write about) &lt;i&gt;books have become simply another vehicle, along with the Washing Machine and the iPod, for generating capital.&lt;/i&gt;

Excuse me?  What kind of frothing-at-the-mouth Luddite do you have to be to hate &lt;i&gt;washing machines&lt;/i&gt;?

Answer: a Luddite who does not do his own laundry.  Maybe that should change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(from the article you write about) <i>books have become simply another vehicle, along with the Washing Machine and the iPod, for generating capital.</i></p>
<p>Excuse me?  What kind of frothing-at-the-mouth Luddite do you have to be to hate <i>washing machines</i>?</p>
<p>Answer: a Luddite who does not do his own laundry.  Maybe that should change.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ebooks: The End of Civilised Reading by Danny Bloom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://zippy1300.blogspot.com/2009/10/danny-bloom-says-hes-on-crusade-to-find.html</description>
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		<title>Comment on Ebooks: The End of Civilised Reading by Danny Bloom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re &#039;&#039;While the &quot;digital revolution&quot; is inevitable in its way, I must offer the opinion that it&#039;ll be a good while before we see a significant change on this particular front.  Good old fashioned books have years of life left in them.&#039;&#039;

I do agree. YEARS AND YEARS.

zenbomb, since i got you here online, wonder if you might be interested one day in blogging on this cockamamie idea of mine , pro or con, and offer your feedback, again pro and con? See my blog at http://zippy1300.blogspot.com and this:


I know and realize I am crawling a bit into the lion&#039;s den here, but I was not named Daniel for nothing (smile) .... but here&#039;s my question to everyone here, pro and con and in between.

I feel that reading on paper is so different, both emotionally and mentally, from reading on a screen, and not a priori better or worse, just different, that at some point -- like today, like in ten years, whenever -- we (the culture) might benefit from creating a new word or term for &quot;reading on a screen&quot;. I have been crusading for this for the past 6 months, with lots of ups and down, lots of pros and con, lots of good discussions, lots of emails from top experts in the field, both pro and con, and here are some &quot;news&quot; links. Of course, the mainstream media still has not reported on my crusade, and I fear they never will, but the bloggysphere has lit up from time to time on this, and it&#039;s been both fun and educational for me. Please weigh in with your thoughts here, pro or con, after reading the background info below. The two words I am thinking of now, for reading on screens, are screening or screading. One NYTimes reporter suggested diging, for digital reading.

My guess is IF we really do need a new word, and if such a new word could be useful and beneficial for scholars and neuroscientists studying these issues, and for the rest of us, too, then the new word will happen organically and naturally, and NOT because one person or one editor coined a word or new term. It might take ten more years for this word to come to us, out of the blue, a completely surprising new word, and also IT MIGHT NEVER HAPPEN. Reading IS reading, and we might not need a new word for this new kind of reading we do on screens. I feel, however, and this is now my life&#039;s work (since I am semi-retired and working for myself now, age 60), that new word or term will be useful and beneficial. What&#039;s YOUR take on all this, pro or con, and if you are interested in playing this game, what word or term might YOU suggest for reading on screens.

http://zippy1300.blogspot.com/2009/1...e-to-find.html

http://zippy1300.blogspot.com/2009/1...ook-youre.html

http://www.ereads.com/2009/10/is-tha...r-are-you.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re &#8221;While the &#8220;digital revolution&#8221; is inevitable in its way, I must offer the opinion that it&#8217;ll be a good while before we see a significant change on this particular front.  Good old fashioned books have years of life left in them.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do agree. YEARS AND YEARS.</p>
<p>zenbomb, since i got you here online, wonder if you might be interested one day in blogging on this cockamamie idea of mine , pro or con, and offer your feedback, again pro and con? See my blog at <a href="http://zippy1300.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://zippy1300.blogspot.com</a> and this:</p>
<p>I know and realize I am crawling a bit into the lion&#8217;s den here, but I was not named Daniel for nothing (smile) &#8230;. but here&#8217;s my question to everyone here, pro and con and in between.</p>
<p>I feel that reading on paper is so different, both emotionally and mentally, from reading on a screen, and not a priori better or worse, just different, that at some point &#8212; like today, like in ten years, whenever &#8212; we (the culture) might benefit from creating a new word or term for &#8220;reading on a screen&#8221;. I have been crusading for this for the past 6 months, with lots of ups and down, lots of pros and con, lots of good discussions, lots of emails from top experts in the field, both pro and con, and here are some &#8220;news&#8221; links. Of course, the mainstream media still has not reported on my crusade, and I fear they never will, but the bloggysphere has lit up from time to time on this, and it&#8217;s been both fun and educational for me. Please weigh in with your thoughts here, pro or con, after reading the background info below. The two words I am thinking of now, for reading on screens, are screening or screading. One NYTimes reporter suggested diging, for digital reading.</p>
<p>My guess is IF we really do need a new word, and if such a new word could be useful and beneficial for scholars and neuroscientists studying these issues, and for the rest of us, too, then the new word will happen organically and naturally, and NOT because one person or one editor coined a word or new term. It might take ten more years for this word to come to us, out of the blue, a completely surprising new word, and also IT MIGHT NEVER HAPPEN. Reading IS reading, and we might not need a new word for this new kind of reading we do on screens. I feel, however, and this is now my life&#8217;s work (since I am semi-retired and working for myself now, age 60), that new word or term will be useful and beneficial. What&#8217;s YOUR take on all this, pro or con, and if you are interested in playing this game, what word or term might YOU suggest for reading on screens.</p>
<p><a href="http://zippy1300.blogspot.com/2009/1...e-to-find.html" rel="nofollow">http://zippy1300.blogspot.com/2009/1&#8230;e-to-find.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://zippy1300.blogspot.com/2009/1...ook-youre.html" rel="nofollow">http://zippy1300.blogspot.com/2009/1&#8230;ook-youre.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ereads.com/2009/10/is-tha...r-are-you.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ereads.com/2009/10/is-tha&#8230;r-are-you.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Ebooks: The End of Civilised Reading by Zenbomb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zenbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the &quot;digital revolution&quot; is inevitable in its way, I must offer the opinion that it&#039;ll be a good while before we see a significant change on this particular front.  Good old fashioned books have years of life left in them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the &#8220;digital revolution&#8221; is inevitable in its way, I must offer the opinion that it&#8217;ll be a good while before we see a significant change on this particular front.  Good old fashioned books have years of life left in them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ebooks: The End of Civilised Reading by Danny Bloom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Bloom</dc:creator>
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		<description>We should not even be taking what Kaufman wrote seriously. He was serious, however. But his use of the loaded words Holocaust etc referring to the Jews in wartime Europe and Nazi Germany, I believe we must forgive this chap and just ignore his words, because, if you know his bio, he is the son of Holocaust survivors who grew up in a dysfunctional family in NYC and his entire life has been this kind of angry activist screaming, and of course, with this insane essay, he has really gone too far. Just ignore him. He could have written the same essay without the allusions to Jews and the Holocaust and made a better article. Sadly, he erred on the side of emotionalism and over-writing. Let him be. The digital revolution cannot be stopped. We all know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should not even be taking what Kaufman wrote seriously. He was serious, however. But his use of the loaded words Holocaust etc referring to the Jews in wartime Europe and Nazi Germany, I believe we must forgive this chap and just ignore his words, because, if you know his bio, he is the son of Holocaust survivors who grew up in a dysfunctional family in NYC and his entire life has been this kind of angry activist screaming, and of course, with this insane essay, he has really gone too far. Just ignore him. He could have written the same essay without the allusions to Jews and the Holocaust and made a better article. Sadly, he erred on the side of emotionalism and over-writing. Let him be. The digital revolution cannot be stopped. We all know that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Terrible Disease by Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Andrew, I couldn&#039;t agree with you more. I write SF and comics and formerly ran my own small press comics publishing house, and I always focussed a lot of attention on my covers. I frankly don&#039;t understand how half the covers in the SF and fantasy field ever get past the art director.

I&#039;m admittedly biased, since I&#039;m friends with both the author of the and the publishers of Objects of Worship, but yeah, Erik Mohr&#039;s covers for ChiZine are indeed fantastic, state-of-the-art cover design.

The Gathering Storm cover is a very good example of a very bad cover illustration, but to be fair, I think the most egregious inflicter of bad covers in our field is not Tor (who have, in general, vastly improved their cover designs lately) but Baen. This cover is a bit of anomaly, frankly looking much more Baen-like than Tor-like, down to the chintzy typography in the book title itself.

I can top you with perhaps the worst-ever cover to grace an SF book in the last 25 years, an abomination foisted on an innocent collection of stories by Spider Robinson, stories that never hurt anyone or even took a sick day they didn&#039;t deserve. Stories no one ever read because their eyes started to bleed as soon as they glanced at the book jacket:

http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/51MEYB1W6KL._SS500_.jpg

Where to begin? The atrocious and amateurish typography? 
The computer being burned at the stake because the medieval mob was terrified of the insanity-provoking wrongness of the perspective (Come on! It&#039;s a rectangle! How hard is it to do proper perspective on a rectangle?) Also, given that this was a book published in 1998 by a SCIENCE FICTION publisher, why are we looking at fridge-sized tape drive which would have gone obsolete decades earlier?

Oh wait. There&#039;s a medieval motif going on, so the computer should be medieval too, right?

I could go on, and on, and on, but you get the drift.

Thanks for listening!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andrew, I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more. I write SF and comics and formerly ran my own small press comics publishing house, and I always focussed a lot of attention on my covers. I frankly don&#8217;t understand how half the covers in the SF and fantasy field ever get past the art director.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m admittedly biased, since I&#8217;m friends with both the author of the and the publishers of Objects of Worship, but yeah, Erik Mohr&#8217;s covers for ChiZine are indeed fantastic, state-of-the-art cover design.</p>
<p>The Gathering Storm cover is a very good example of a very bad cover illustration, but to be fair, I think the most egregious inflicter of bad covers in our field is not Tor (who have, in general, vastly improved their cover designs lately) but Baen. This cover is a bit of anomaly, frankly looking much more Baen-like than Tor-like, down to the chintzy typography in the book title itself.</p>
<p>I can top you with perhaps the worst-ever cover to grace an SF book in the last 25 years, an abomination foisted on an innocent collection of stories by Spider Robinson, stories that never hurt anyone or even took a sick day they didn&#8217;t deserve. Stories no one ever read because their eyes started to bleed as soon as they glanced at the book jacket:</p>
<p><a href="http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/51MEYB1W6KL._SS500_.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/51MEYB1W6KL._SS500_.jpg</a></p>
<p>Where to begin? The atrocious and amateurish typography?<br />
The computer being burned at the stake because the medieval mob was terrified of the insanity-provoking wrongness of the perspective (Come on! It&#8217;s a rectangle! How hard is it to do proper perspective on a rectangle?) Also, given that this was a book published in 1998 by a SCIENCE FICTION publisher, why are we looking at fridge-sized tape drive which would have gone obsolete decades earlier?</p>
<p>Oh wait. There&#8217;s a medieval motif going on, so the computer should be medieval too, right?</p>
<p>I could go on, and on, and on, but you get the drift.</p>
<p>Thanks for listening!</p>
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